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Baseball Analysis  Michael Hoban, Ph.D


This material is adapted from the book, BASEBALL’S BEST: The TRUE Hall of Famers by Michael Hoban, Ph.D. (booklocker.com, June 2007).

 

 

Chapter 21

 

The Active Players

 

Who has a Shot at Hall of Fame Numbers?

 

 

In this chapter, we will take a look at the players who were still active at the end of 2006 and see which ones seem to have a realistic chance to reach the benchmarks for Hall of Fame numbers according to the NEWS monitor.  We will look at the position players first and then the pitchers.

 

 

The Position Players

 

In order to establish Hall of Fame numbers, a position player has to have played at least ten seasons in the major leagues and have a NEWS score of 280.  We will examine those players who seem to have a chance to reach this important benchmark. 

 

Keep in mind that only eighty-two (82) position players in the 20th century have done this.  That is a very exclusive group.  Of course, there are eight position players who were active at the end of 2006 and who are already members of that group – that is, they have already posted HOF numbers.  Here they are.  (The number beside the player’s name is his rank compared to all the position players of the century.)

 

                                                                        CWS               CV                NEWS

 

  3.  Barry Bonds                     LF                   686                  427                  492

29.  Gary Sheffield                  LF                   402                  305                  329     

30.  Craig Biggio                     2B                    422                  294                  326     

31.  Alex Rodriguez                 SS                    340                  317                  323

32.  Frank Thomas                 1B                    383                  301                  322                 

54.  Ken Griffey Jr                  CF                   367                  278                  300

59.  Manny Ramirez                LF                   334                  282                  295

77.  Mike Piazza                      C                    320                  273                  285

 

Barry Bonds has the third best numbers of any position player of the 20th century.  And there can be no question that he has the numbers for the Hall of Fame.  No one can predict the effect of the steroids question on his election.  I hear two interesting comments about his career.  The first is that he had HOF credentials before he was ever suspected of taking steroids.  The second is that he would never have hit 73 home runs in one season or be challenging Hank Aaron’s career home run record if he had not taken performance enhancement substances.  I happen to agree with both of these statements.  I also believe that he will be elected to the Hall (but perhaps not on the first ballot).

 

Gary Sheffield was one of the biggest surprises of this analysis to me.  I knew he had some very good seasons (he has been an All Star with five different teams) but I never would have thought that he would emerge with numbers that put him into the top 30 position players of the century.  I think the steroid question will affect him much more than Barry Bonds.  It is my view that there is no way that Sheffield, Rafael Palmeiro, Sammy Sosa or a few others will ever get into the Hall unless Mark McGwire is elected first – and who knows if that is ever going to happen. 

 

Craig Biggio is the #5 best second baseman of the century behind only Eddie Collins, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Morgan and Nap Lajoie.  He should be an easy first round inductee into the Hall of Fame.

 

Alex Rodriguez is the second best shortstop of the century after only Honus Wagner.  His Hall of Fame credentials are already clearly established after just thirteen seasons.  The only question that remains is how many records he may break before he is through.  He is already approaching 500 home runs and is still very much in his prime.

 

Frank Thomas is the third best first baseman of the century behind only Lou Gehrig and Jimmie Foxx.  I was somewhat surprised by this.  But there is no doubt in my mind at this point that it is true.  I am assuming that he will be an easy first round inductee into the Hall when his time comes.

 

Ken Griffey Jr. has had a great eighteen year career (through 2006).  Injuries have taken their toll on him in recent years but there is no denying the numbers that he has generated during his playing days.  He was clearly one of the best players of the 1990s and I cannot imagine that he will have any trouble being elected to the Hall.

 

Manny Ramirez is a somewhat eccentric baseball character but he gets away with “being Manny” because everyone recognizes that he is one of the best hitters of his generation.  He will probably have to wait through a few elections before making it to the Hall but I think he will be inducted in due course.

 

Mike Piazza is the third best catcher of the century behind only Yogi Berra and Johnny Bench.  His reputation as the best-hitting catcher of all time should guarantee his election to the Hall on the first ballot.

 

OK, these eight players clearly have Hall of Fame numbers.  But are there other active players who may be able to establish the numbers as well before their careers are over?  Let’s have a look.

 

 

 

 

Some Thoughts on Reaching HOF Numbers

 

We will now look at some active players who have not yet reached the 280 NEWS benchmark but appear to have some chance of doing so.  In order to be realistic, we will look only at the players who satisfy the following criteria:

1.      They have already played eight full seasons in the major leagues (of 100 games each).

2.      They had at least 230 career win shares at the end of 2006.

 

I have chosen these criteria because by the end of eight seasons a player should have begun to establish his Hall of Fame credentials.  And if he does not have 230 NEWS by that time it is very unlikely that he will reach 280 NEWS.

 

You will note that the lowest CV (core value) among the eight players above is Mike Piazza’s 273.  That means that Piazza averaged better than 27 win shares for his ten best seasons.  If we consider 25 win shares to represent an “All Star” season (which it does), you can begin to appreciate how good those ten best seasons were.  Piazza had played fifteen very good seasons through 2006 and had earned 320 career win shares.  With his CV of 273, he has a NEWS score of 285 – just five points over the benchmark.  This gives you some idea of how difficult it is to reach this pinnacle.  So, we should not be too surprised if one of our favorite active players does not seem to have a chance to do it.

 

If a position player has a CV of 250, then he needs at least 370 career win shares to reach 280 NEWS.  That is a lot of career win shares.  Note that four of the eight players above do not yet have 370 CWS.

 

With a CV of 260, the player needs 340 CWS to earn 280 NEWS.  And so it goes.  It is fair to say that to achieve HOF numbers is extremely difficult without a CV of at least 260.  If you search the lists in this book, you will find that only eight players have done this.  Dave Winfield has the highest score of this group – a NEWS of 298 with a CV of 259 and 415 CWS.

 

I do want to mention one exceptional player here who had not yet completed eight seasons by the end of 2006.  And that player is Albert Pujols.  If there is any close follower of baseball who does not think that Pujols is headed for the Hall of Fame, then I do not know what he or she is thinking.  As of the end of 2006, Albert had played in only six full seasons.  The lowest he has been in the voting for the MVP during those seasons is fourth.  (He has been elected MVP once, been second three times, third once and fourth once.)  Clearly, we are dealing with a special player here.  So, how is he doing with his win shares?    

 

Over his six seasons, Albert Pujols has earned 210 win shares.  That is an average of exactly 35 win shares per season.  If he could maintain that average for four more seasons, then he would have a CV of 350.  If you check the lists in this book, you will find that only thirteen position players in the 20th century have such a core value.  Of those, Hank Aaron has the lowest at 356.  Will Albert be able to maintain such a pace?  Nobody knows for sure.  I mention him here (even though he has not played eight full seasons yet) because he is (at this point) having an outstanding career and he should establish Hall of Fame numbers easily. 

 

 

The Active Players with a Chance to Reach Hall of Fame Numbers

 

As we examine the numbers that a player has already posted, keep in mind that most players will need to play at least eighteen seasons to really have a chance to post HOF numbers.  As an example, let’s look at the numbers that Bernie Williams put up during his career.  I have chosen Bernie because he was still active in 2006 but is apparently now retired.

 

                                                CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Bernie Williams             311                  248                  264     

 

As you can see from the numbers, Williams had a very solid sixteen year career with the Yankees.  He accumulated 311 career win shares and had a very respectable core value of 248.  But his NEWS score of 264 fell short of the 280 benchmark.  Bernie is a good example of a very good, solid major league player whose career fell just short of deserving recognition in Cooperstown.  If he had played two more seasons, could he have made a NEWS score of 280?  With a CV of 248, Bernie would need 376 career win shares to do this.  That would be 65 more win shares over two seasons.  Since he earned only 35 win shares over his last three seasons, this would have been a near impossible task.

 

 

The Four Active Players with the Best Chance of Reaching 280 News

 

Here are four players who I feel have an excellent chance of reaching 280 NEWS.  Of course, with all the players, we are assuming a continuation of past performance.  Obviously, injuries could affect these predictions.

 

                                                CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Jim Thome                              304                  265                  275     

Jason Giambi                          283                  271                  274     

Chipper Jones                         301                  262                  272     

Derek Jeter                             277                  258                  263     

 

Jim Thome has the highest NEWS score (275) of any active position player (other than the eight above).  He has already played for sixteen seasons in the majors so his window of opportunity could be closing.  However, he only needs 325 win shares with his CV of 265 to reach 280 NEWS.  Which means he only needs an additional 21 win shares in 2007 or subsequent years to accomplish this.  He had 25 win shares in 2006 so there is every indication he can achieve this goal.

 

Jason Giambi has played for only twelve seasons but he already has an impressive CV of 271.  With that CV, he only needs a total of 307 career win shares to reach 280 NEWS.  Since he already has 283 CWS, he needs a total of only 24 more win shares and he posted 46 win shares over the past two seasons.  With a good chunk of his career still ahead of him, Giambi should wind up well above a NEWS score of 280.  Of course, in his case, getting into the Hall of Fame may be more difficult since he has a cloud of “steroid suspicion” hanging over him

 

Chipper Jones had 301 win shares and a CV of 262 after the 2006 season.  And he had played for only thirteen seasons.  If his CV stays the same, he needs a total of 334 win shares to reach 280 NEWS – just 33 more than he has at present.  He had 22 win shares in 2006 – so he should have no trouble getting those 33 over the next few seasons (and probably many more).  He should easily end his career with HOF numbers.

 

Derek Jeter has a core value after 2006 of 258 – a point at which a 280 NEWS score is possible if he plays long enough.  If he does not improve that CV, then he needs a total of 346 career win shares.  He now has 277 meaning that he needs 69 more win shares.  But he has only played for twelve seasons and he earned an impressive 32 win shares in 2006.  If Jeter plays for four more seasons and averages 18 win shares per season, he will achieve a 280 NEWS score.  There appears to be no question that he should be able to  earn considerably more than the 346 career win shares that he needs.  Cooperstown certainly seems to be in his future.

 

In terms of achieving Hall of Fame numbers (at least 280 NEWS), I would award each of the four players above a grade of A  = they should definitely achieve HOF numbers.

 

 

Now what about Sammy Sosa who is playing again in 2007?  Is it possible that someone could hit 600 home runs and not have HOF numbers?  (I assume that he will reach 600 home runs and then retire after 2007.)  Here are his numbers.

 

                                                CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Sammy Sosa                            313                  255                  270     

 

Sammy Sosa had played for seventeen seasons and had earned 313 career win shares through 2006.   His core value was 255 and he had a NEWS score of 270.  With that CV, he would need 355 career win shares to reach a NEWS score of 280.  Which means that he needs 42 more win shares to reach the mark.  There is no way that he can do that in the 2007 season alone.  It is not even clear that he can do it in two seasons (he would need to average 21 each season).  So it appears that Sosa may not achieve HOF numbers.  If he does reach 600 home runs, it will be interesting to see how the BBWAA treats him on his first Hall of Fame ballot.  Not well, I think.  A grade of C  =  possible but a long shot to reach HOF numbers.   

 

 

 

Three Players with a NEWS score above 250

 

Look at the numbers for these three players.  Do any of them have a realistic chance to post HOF numbers?

                                                CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Jeff Kent                                 313                  252                  267     

Jim Edmonds                          274                  250                  256     

Carlos Delgado                       262                  248                  252     

 

Jeff Kent had played fifteen seasons through 2006.  Given a CV of 252, he would need 364 career win shares to reach 280 NEWS.  Which means that he would need a total of 51 more win shares.  In the past two seasons, he has earned 46 win shares and in the past three, 68.  Can he play for three more seasons (eighteen seasons in all) and continue to earn win shares at the same rate?  It is possible.  A grade of C = possible but a long shot.

 

Jim Edmonds has played for fourteen seasons.  With a CV of 250, he would need 370 win shares to reach HOF numbers.  That is 96 more than he has at present.  Over the past five seasons, he has earned 120 win shares.  If he can play for five more seasons (nineteen seasons in all) at the same level, he could do it.  So, it is possible but very unlikely.  D = very little chance to reach HOF numbers.

 

Carlos Delgado had also played for fourteen seasons through 2006.  He would need 114 more win shares to reach a NEWS score of 280 (with a CV of 248).  He has earned 125 win shares over the past five seasons.  So, like Jim Edmonds, if he can play five more seasons at a comparable level, he could reach HOF numbers.  But that is not too likely.

D = very little chance.

 

 

Three Other Players Worth Watching

 

Here are three players with a NEWS score in the 240s.  What are their chances of establishing Hall of Fame numbers?

 

                                                CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Bobby Abreu                           249                  249                  249

Brian Giles                              249                  242                  244     

Vladimir Guerrero                  243                  243                  243     

 

Bobby Abreu has played eleven seasons in the major leagues but only nine full seasons.  For those nine seasons (1998-2006), he has averaged 27 win shares per season.  If he can do that for one more season, he will have a CV of 270.  And there is no reason to think that he will not do this (he had 27 win shares in 2006).  With that CV, he would need a total of 310 career win shares to post a 280 NEWS score.  That means he would need only 61 more win shares to reach HOF numbers.  With many more years to go in his career, he should have no trouble doing that.  Give him a B = a good chance to post HOF numbers.

 

Brian Giles has played twelve seasons in the majors.  Ten of those were full seasons so his CV of 242 is based on ten full seasons (unlike Bobby Abreu above whose present CV is based on only nine full season plus one partial season).  In his last eight seasons, he has averaged 27 win shares per season.  So there is every reason to believe that he will improve his CV and also post the career win shares to enable him to reach HOF numbers.  His grade would be a B = a good chance to post the numbers.

 

 

Vladimir Guerrero is similar to Bobby Abreu in that he has played eleven seasons but only nine have been full seasons.  For his nine full seasons (1998-2006), he has averaged 26 win shares per season.  He should easily be able to get his CV into the 260-270 range (at least).  And with many more seasons ahead of him, he should have no trouble establishing HOF numbers.  A grade of  B = a good chance to post the numbers.

 

 

Three Other Players with Some Chance

 

These three players have NEWS scores in the 230s with many more years to play.

 

                                                CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Scott Rolen                              235                  233                  234     

Todd Helton                            230                  230                  230     

Andruw Jones                         232                  229                  230     

 

Scott Rolen has played in eleven major league seasons but only in nine full seasons.  For the nine full seasons, he has averaged 25 win shares.  One more season like that and his CV will be 250.  With that CV, he would need a total of 370 career win shares to post a NEWS score of 280.  Which means he would need 135 more win shares.  Can he average 20 win shares for seven more seasons?  It is possible but difficult.  Give him a grade of C= possible but a long shot.

 

Todd Helton is in a situation similar to Rolen in that he has played in ten seasons but only nine full seasons.  And his average for the nine seasons is identical to Rolen, 25 win shares.  So, he would also need at least one season of 25 win shares to reach a CV of 250 and 140 more win shares to reach 370 for HOF numbers.  Can he do it?  Yes, but it will not be easy.  C = possible but a long shot.

 

Andruw Jones has only played in eleven seasons but he has ten full seasons behind him.  His win shares numbers are so close to Rolen and Helton that I think it is fair to grade him in the same way.  C = possible to reach HOF numbers but a long shot.

 

 

These are the only active position players who have completed eight full seasons and have 230 win shares - who I believe have a shot at posting HOF numbers (a NEWS score of 280).  If I have inadvertently left out someone, I apologize in advance.

 

There is one other active player who I will mention because I feel that he will eventually be inducted into the Hall of Fame even though he probably will not achieve HOF numbers.  I am speaking of Ivan Rodriguez who has a reputation as an outstanding defensive catcher and a good hitter.

 

                                                CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Ivan Rodriguez                        296                  225                  243     

 

Ivan Rodriguez had played in sixteen major league seasons by the end of 2006.  With a CV of 225, he would need 445 career win shares to make a NEWS score of 280.  Of course, he is not going to be able to do that.  But, as we saw in Chapter 14, Pudge is the #11 best catcher of the century (and he could move up from there).  And only four catchers have ever posted a NEWS score of 280 (Yogi Berra, Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza and Gary Carter).  So, I do believe he may make it into the Hall despite not having HOF numbers. 

 

 

The Pitchers

 

In order to establish Hall of Fame numbers, a pitcher has to play at least ten seasons and satisfy one of the following criteria:

 

1.      A NEWS score of 235.

2.      A NEWS score of 150 with less than 1700 innings pitched (for relief pitchers).

3.      300 career win shares.

 

We will examine those players who seem to have a chance to reach one of these benchmarks. 

 

Only thirty-five (35) pitchers in the 20th century have achieved a NEWS score of 235.  And only four others have earned 300 CWS.  As for relief pitchers, only five have earned 150 win shares in 1700 innings (and two of those are in the Hall, Bruce Sutter and Rollie Fingers).

 

 

Active Pitchers who already have Hall of Fame Numbers

 

At the end of the 2006 season, there were five active pitchers who had already earned Hall of Fame numbers.  Here are the top three.

 

 

                                                            CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Roger Clemens                                    432                  260                  303

Greg Maddux                                      383                  246                  280     

Randy Johnson                                    305                  230                  249

 

Roger Clemens continues to “unretire” each year and to pitch effectively.  At the end of 2006, he had pitched for twenty-three seasons, had won 348 games and had received seven Cy Young awards.  His NEWS score of 303 ranks him as the #5 pitcher of the century.  If any active player is a lock for the Hall of Fame, it is Clemens.

 

Greg Maddux has pitched for twenty-one seasons, has won 336 games and has garnered four Cy Young awards.  His NEWS score of 280 places him as the #9 pitcher of the century.  It seems remarkable to me to have two of the top ten pitchers of the century still pitching at the present time.  There should be no question about his Hall of Fame credentials.

 

Randy Johnson has pitched for nineteen seasons, has won 281 games and five Cy Yound awards.  His NEWS score of 249 ranks him among the top 25 pitchers of the century (at #23).  While not quite as impressive as Clemens and Maddux, Randy’s numbers should guarantee his place in the Hall.

 

As mentioned in a previous chapter, Tom Glavine has already earned 300 win shares and HOF numbers.

 

                                                            CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Tom Glavine                                       303                  203                  228                 

Tom Glavine had pitched for twenty seasons by the end of 2006.  He had won 290 games and been awarded two Cy Young awards.  He has a good chance to reach the 300 win mark in 2007 and add to his credentials.  But with 300 win shares already in place, I feel that he has clearly earned his place in the Hall of Fame.

 

The fifth active pitcher who has already established HOF numbers is Mariano Rivera.

 

                                                            CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Mariano Rivera                                  181                  170                  173     

 

Mariano Rivera is possibly the greatest pure reliever of all time.  As I pointed out in a previous chapter, there is no other reliever with less than 1700 innings pitched who comes close to his NEWS score of 173.  (Bruce Sutter and Lee Smith both have 164 – but that is a significant gap.)  I do believe that he will have no trouble being elected to the Hall.

 

These are the five active pitchers who have already earned Hall of Fame numbers according to the NEWS monitor.  But are there any other starting pitchers or relievers who seem to have a chance to post the numbers?

 

 

Starting Pitchers who may have a Chance at Hall of Fame Numbers

 

There appear to be only four other active starting pitchers who have completed at least eight seasons who have any chance at all of recording a NEWS score of 235 or 300 win shares (unless I have missed someone).  Here they are.

 

                                                            CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Pedro Martinez                                   249                  206                  217     

John Smoltz                                         272                  185                  207     

Curt Schilling                                      242                  191                  204                 

Mike Mussina                                      248                  184                  200                 

 

If you look at the lists of pitchers in this book who have posted a NEWS score of 235, you will note that the lowest CV was that of Hall of Famer Ted Lyons at 210.  He recorded a NEWS score of 236 but he also had 312 career win shares.  (Clemens, Maddux and Johnson each has a CV of 230 or greater.)  None of these four pitchers has a CV of 210 so their chance of reaching 235 NEWS is slim at best.  But what about 300 win shares?  Could they do that?

 

Pedro Martinez probably has the best shot among these pitchers of reaching HOF numbers.  At the end of 2006, he had pitched for fifteen seasons, had won three Cy Young awards and had a CV of 206.  With that CV, he would need 322 career win shares to reach a NEWS score of 235 – or 73 more than he has at present.  If he pitches for five more seasons (which is possible), he would need to average 15 win shares per season to reach 322.  He has earned 82 win shares over the past five seasons, so this target is possible – but by no means is it going to be easy.  Of course, he only needs 51 more win shares to reach 300 - which is definitely within range.  Give Pedro a grade of A = should definitely achieve HOF numbers.

 

John Smoltz has pitched for eighteen seasons and has won one Cy Young award.  With a CV of 185, he is not going to reach a NEWS score of 235.  But he does have 272 win shares so far in his career – meaning he needs only 28 more to reach 300.  In the past two seasons (since he returned to his starting role), he has earned 34 win shares.  So, it is reasonable to say that he can reach 300 in the next two seasons.  Give him a grade of B = a good chance to post HOF numbers.

 

Curt Schilling has pitched for nineteen seasons.  With a CV of 191, he would need 367 win shares to reach a NEWS score of 235 – and that is not going to happen.  But what about 300 win shares?  He needs 58 more win shares to reach 300.  Over the past four seasons, he has earned 55 win shares.  At the age of 40, can he earn 58 more win shares?  It is possible, but very unlikely.  D = very little chance to reach HOF numbers.

 

Mike Mussina had pitched for sixteen seasons by the end of 2006.  His only chance for HOF numbers is to reach 300 win shares.  He has 248 so he would need 52 more.  By coincidence, over the past four seasons, he has earned exactly 52 win shares.  At the age of 38, can he pitch well enough for four more seasons to reach the 300 mark?  It would be a long shot. C = possible to reach HOF numbers but a long shot.

 

 

The Relief Pitchers

 

Are there any relief pitchers who seem to have a chance to record a NEWS score of 150 with fewer than 1700 innings pitched?  As I mentioned above, only five pitchers have ever done this and Mariano Rivera has the best numbers of this group.  It appears that two active relievers may have a shot at doing this.  Here they are.

 

                                                            CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Billy Wagner                                       141                  140                  140     

Trevor Hoffman                                  158                  133                  139     

 

Billy Wagner had pitched for twelve seasons at the end of 2006 and had 141 win shares.  With a CV of 140, he would need 180 career win shares to reach a NEWS score of 150 – meaning that he needs 40 more win shares.  He is 35 years old and should have a number of good years left.  He has earned 42 win shares over his past three seasons.  So, it appears that he should be able to reach 180.  B = a good chance to post HOF numbers.

 

Trevor Hoffman has pitched for fourteen seasons and is 39 years old.  With a CV of 133, he would need a total of 201 win shares to reach a NEWS score of 150.  That means he needs 43 more win shares.  Over the past three seasons, he has earned 36 win shares.  Can he pitch for four more seasons in an effective manner?  Who knows?  But it is a long shot at best. C = possible to reach HOF numbers but a long shot.

 

 

Summary

 

1.  The Active Players who already have Hall of Fame Numbers

 

                                                            CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Barry Bonds                                        686                  427                  492

Gary Sheffield                                     402                  305                  329     

Craig Biggio                                        422                  294                  326     

Alex Rodriguez                                    340                  317                  323

Frank Thomas                                                383                  301                  322                 

Ken Griffey Jr                                     367                  278                  300

Manny Ramirez                                   334                  282                  295

Mike Piazza                                         320                  273                  285

 

Roger Clemens                                    432                  260                  303

Greg Maddux                                      383                  246                  280     

Randy Johnson                                    305                  230                  249

Tom Glavine                                       303                  203                  228     

Mariano Rivera                                  181                  170                  173     

 

 

2.  The Active Players with some Chance to Achieve Hall of Fame Numbers

 

A players = an excellent chance to post HOF numbers.

 

                                                            CWS               CV                NEWS

 

Jim Thome                                          304                  265                  275     

Jason Giambi                                      283                  271                  274     

Chipper Jones                                     301                  262                  272     

Derek Jeter                                         277                  258                  263     

Pedro Martinez                                   249                  206                  217     

 

B players = a good chance to post HOF numbers.

 

Bobby Abreu                                       249                  249                  249

Brian Giles                                          249                  242                  244     

Vladimir Guerrero                              243                  243                  243     

John Smoltz                                         272                  185                  207     

Billy Wagner                                       141                  140                  140     

 

C players = possible to reach HOF numbers but a long shot.

 

Sammy Sosa                                        313                  255                  270     

Jeff Kent                                             313                  252                  267     

Scott Rolen                                          235                  233                  234     

Todd Helton                                        230                  230                  230     

Andruw Jones                                     232                  229                  230     

Mike Mussina                                      248                  184                  200                 

Trevor Hoffman                                  158                  133                  139     

 

D players = very little chance to reach HOF numbers.

 

Jim Edmonds                                      274                  250                  256     

Carlos Delgado                                   262                  248                  252     

Curt Schilling                                      242                  191                  204                 

 

 

 

Michael Hoban, Ph.D. is Professor Emeritus (mathematics) of the City University of New York.  Professor Hoban has been a baseball fan for over 60 years and a serious baseball analyst for the past ten years (he is a member of SABR - Society for American Baseball Research).  He has previously written two books devoted to the task of ranking players.

1.       Baseball’s Complete Players (McFarland: 2000) was an attempt to put the numbers together (both offensive and defensive) to see who were baseball’s best all-around players at each position.

2.       Fielder’s Choice: Baseball’s Best Shortstops (Booklocker: 2003) was an attempt to rank the shortstops by defensive skills and then by overall excellence.

 

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