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Part 2 - The Players
3000
Hits – All Have Hall of Fame Numbers
500
Home Runs – Sammy Sosa,
Odd Man Out
300
Win Shares - The New “Rule of Thumb”
“All
In” – Starting Pitchers and the Hall of Fame
The
21st Century Hall of Famers
The
2015 BBWAA Hall of Fame Ballot
The 21st Century Hall of Famers
Michael
Hoban, Ph.D.
Here is an interesting question. How many of the “great baseball players” of modern times (those with Hall of Fame numbers) have played during the 21st century (since 2001)? Let’s first take a look at this question for position players and then for pitchers.
The Position Players (26)
At the end of the 2017 season, there were one hundred and four (104) position players from the modern era (since 1920) who had posted Hall of Fame numbers during their playing careers. That is the conclusion of the CAWS CAREER GAUGE.
Of those one hundred and four “modern” position players with HOF numbers, only five were still active during the 2017 season.
And twenty-one other players (with HOF numbers) were still playing in 2001 or later. That means a total of twenty-six (26) players or 25% of the “great” position players of modern times were still active in the 21st century.
Here are the five position players who were active during 2017 and who have HOF numbers. The first number is career win shares, the second is core value (the win shares for the ten best seasons) and the third is the CAWS score.
CWS CV
CAWS
Albert Pujols
1B 469 347 378
Miguel Cabrera
1B 388 295 318
Robinson Cano
2B 334 285 297
Adrian Beltre
3B 381 248 281
Carlos Beltran
CF 370 240 273
CAWS = 270 is the benchmark for HOF numbers for a center fielder.
Here are the twenty-one retired position players who according to the CCG have HOF numbers (and played during the 2001 season or later). Bold print = Hall of Famer.
Barry Bonds
LF 707 427 497
Alex Rodriguez
SS 498 330 372
Gary Sheffield
LF 430 305 336
Craig Biggio
2B 428 294 328
CWS CV
CAWS
Frank Thomas
DH 405 301 327
Chipper Jones
3B 423 281 317
Jeff Bagwell
1B 388 287 312
Derek
Jeter
SS 415 275 310
Ken Griffey Jr CF 403 278 309
Tim Raines
LF 390 275 304
Roberto Alomar 2B 375 278 302
Jim Thome
1B 392 270 301
Mark McGwire
1B 342 283 298
Manny Ramirez
LF 394 263 296
Rafael Palmeiro
1B 387 257 290
Mike Piazza
C 325 273 286
Lance
Berkman
1B 311 276 285
Vladimir
Guerrero RF 333 269 285
Barry Larkin
SS 347 258 280
Jeff Kent
2B 339 252 274
Ivan Rodriguez C 345 234 262
One might be inclined to argue about the appropriate playing position for Alex Rodriguez and Frank Thomas. But the fact of the matter is that through their respective careers ARod played more games at shortstop than anywhere else and Thomas played more games at DH than at first base.
The Pitchers (7)
Through the end of the 2017 season, the CAWS CAREER GAUGE suggests that there have been only forty-two (42) pitchers since 1920 who have posted Hall of Fame numbers during their careers.
Of these forty-two “modern” pitchers with HOF numbers, none were active during the 2017 season. However, seven of these pitchers had played in 2001 or later. So, seven pitchers or 17% of the “great” pitchers of modern times were still active in the 21st century.
Here are those seven pitchers. Bold print = Hall of Famer.
CWS CV CAWS
Roger Clemens
432 260 303
Greg Maddux
398 246 284
Tom Glavine
314 203 231
Pedro Martinez 256 206 219
Roy
Halladay
226 199 206
So, the CAWS CAREER GAUGE has identified a total of 26 + 7 = 33 players who have played in the 21st century and who have HOF numbers. Of course, many of these players began their careers well before 2001.
Since 1920, there have been a total of 104 + 42 = 146 players who have posted such numbers during their careers.
The question could be asked: Is this number of Hall of Famers in this time frame “reasonable?” And the rough answer would be: Yes, it seems so.
1920 to 2017 is a 97-year period. If we take any 20-year time frame, it seems that approximately 20/97 = .21 = 21% of the HOF players from the whole period should be playing during that time frame.
Well, 21% of 146 players = 31 players. So, when the CAWS Gauge suggests that there have been 33 such players in this time frame, this certainly is within the realm of “reasonableness.”
Unfortunately, some of these thirty-three (33) 21st century players who have put up HOF numbers during their careers may have been tainted by the steroids scandal. Whether or not they will ever be elected to the Hall of Fame is at this point a matter of conjecture.
Michael Hoban, Ph.D is Professor Emeritus of mathematics at the City University of N.Y. He has been an avid baseball fan for over 60 years and has become a serious baseball analyst, since joining SABR (Society for American Baseball Research) in 1998. He is the author of five baseball books including: DEFINING GREATNESS: A Hall of Fame Handbook (Booklocker, 2012) BASEBALL'S COMPLETE PLAYERS (McFarland: 2000) and FIELDER'S CHOICE (Booklocker: 2003).