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Ken Griffey, RF Joe Morgan, 2B Toney Perez, 1B Tom Seaver, Pitcher Johnny Bench, C Pete Rose, 3B Dave Conception, SS George Foster, LF The following comparison of Pete Rose to his long-time teammates: Bench, Morgan, Foster and Perez, shows that he was not in the top 3 hitters on his own team. He did out hit fellow Hall of Fame teammates Dave Concepcion and Tom Seaver.  

To illustrate the point, batting records of their best single season, top 5 seasons, top 10 seasons and careers were compared. Their seasons were sorted by the following criteria to determine which is their "best."  And, with exception of the "career" totals, no season with fewer than 400 plate appearances was included.  The players were sorted by OPS (on base avg + slugging avg) and by Total Avg (TA=batting avg + slugging avg).  Then, the rankings were averaged to determine the total combined ranking.

After studying the table below, also consider the intangibles.  While I don't consider Pete Rose a superior fielder, to his credit, he won 2 Gold Gloves as an outfielder.  His teammates winning Gold Gloves, Bench who won 10 and Morgan who won 5, are in the Hall of Fame, Foster and Perez didn't win any and are not.  As far as base running, if you use stolen bases as a measure, Rose was adequate, but not superior.  To me, while he was fun to watch (I admit I was a big Reds fan) and longevity is a big factor, by most fundamental and widely accepted statistical measures, he just wasn't as obvious a choice for the Hall of Fame as some make it seem.  Sorry Pete!

Comparison of 5 Cincinnati Reds During the 1970's and 80's
                       
Best Season HR RBI SB AVG OBA SLG TA RANK OPS RANK COMB
FOSTER, GEORGE 52 149 6 .320 .382 .631 .951 1 1.013 2 1.5
MORGAN, JOE 27 111 60 .320 .452 .576 .896 3 1.028 1 2
PEREZ, TONY 40 129 8 .317 .401 .589 .906 2 .991 3 2.5
ROSE, PETE 16 82 7 .348 .428 .512 .860 4 .940 4 4
BENCH, JOHNNY 40 125 6 .270 .384 .541 .810 5 .925 5 5
                       
Top 5 Seasons HR RBI SB AVG OBA SLG TA RANK OPS RANK COMB
FOSTER, GEORGE 173 578 31 .301 .371 .561 .862 1 .932 2 1.5
MORGAN, JOE 114 432 301 .303 .433 .508 .811 4 .942 1 2.5
BENCH, JOHNNY 177 621 29 .280 .362 .539 .820 3 .901 3 3
PEREZ, TONY 144 533 23 .299 .373 .522 .820 2 .895 4 3
ROSE, PETE 55 305 51 .331 .405 .466 .797 5 .871 5 5
                       
Top 10 Seasons HR RBI SB AVG OBA SLG TA RANK OPS RANK COMB
FOSTER, GEORGE 294 1002 37 .285 .350 .511 .796 1 .861 3 2
BENCH, JOHNNY 297 1036 51 .275 .356 .506 .781 3 .862 2 2.5
MORGAN, JOE 173 719 454 .289 .415 .463 .752 5 .878 1 3
PEREZ, TONY 257 1028 28 .289 .354 .494 .784 2 .848 5 3.5
ROSE, PETE 99 664 96 .323 .393 .452 .775 4 .845 4 4
                       
Career HR RBI SB AVG OBA SLG TA RANK OPS RANK COMB
BENCH, JOHNNY, 17 389 1376 68 .267 .344 .476 .743 2 .820 1 1.5
FOSTER, GEORGE, 18 348 1239 51 .274 .337 .480 .754 1 .817 2 1.5
PEREZ, TONY, 23 379 1652 49 .279 .342 .463 .743 3 .805 4 3.5
MORGAN, JOE, 22 270 1143 689 .270 .391 .424 .694 5 .815 3 4
ROSE, PETE, 24 160 1314 198 .303 .373 .409 .712 4 .782 5 4.5

One last word...a VERY honorable mention goes to another teammate who should not be forgotten KEN GRIFFEY, SR., whose career stats matchup favorably to Pete Rose too.

His rankings if we had included him in the above "career" table:
Career HR RBI SB AVG OBA SLG TA RANK OPS RANK COMB
GRIFFEY, KEN, 19 152 859 200 0.296 .360 .431 .728 4 .791 5 4.5


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